FHA- Hud Certified Inspector-Roster - InspectionNews

todd anderson · #1 (**permalink**) 02-09-2009, 06:46 PM

Does anyone have any feed back as being a FHA inspector ? and put
on thier Roster.

Has this increased anyone business.

I passed the Pre application but the next steps are a lot of hoops
traveling to Washington DC for a week of training,tests , than some infield test inspections ect.

I wood spend a lot of money to does this and not sure if i will see any return
on it

Has anyone gone though this , training and certification ?

Scott Patterson · #2 (**permalink**) 02-10-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by todd anderson

Does anyone have any feed back as being a FHA inspector ? and put
on thier Roster.

Has this increased anyone business.

I passed the Pre application but the next steps are a lot of hoops
traveling to Washington DC for a week of training,tests , than some infield test inspections ect.

I wood spend a lot of money to does this and not sure if i will see any return
on it

Has anyone gone though this , training and certification ?

The DC training is not for the HUD roster listing, it is for an entirely different program. You just need to fill out their application and meet their requirements.

I have been on the roster for 10+ years and I bet I have done a dozen or so jobs in that period of time. Not really worth the trouble. Now, I do know several guys that do well on the roster and also with 203K inspections. It all depends on your area. Very few homes in my are are built to sell in the HUD/FHA price ranges so the builders don't worry with the HUD Red Tape.

todd anderson · #3 (**permalink**) 02-10-2009, 03:43 PM

Thanks for your help

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Originally Posted by Scott Patterson

The DC training is not for the HUD roster listing, it is for an entirely different program. You just need to fill out their application and meet their requirements.

I have been on the roster for 10+ years and I bet I have done a dozen or so jobs in that period of time. Not really worth the trouble. Now, I do know several guys that do well on the roster and also with 203K inspections. It all depends on your area. Very few homes in my are are built to sell in the HUD/FHA price ranges so the builders don't worry with the HUD Red Tape.

matt berman · #4 (**permalink**) 02-14-2009, 06:54 AM

i have been on huds roster for 4 years, maybe a dozen inspections. not a great source of income but still some income,

Joseph Melbourne · #5 (**permalink**) 02-14-2009, 06:48 PM

Where can you find info on how to get on the FHA and HUD roster ?

Scott Patterson · #6 (**permalink**) 02-15-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Melbourne

Where can you find info on how to get on the FHA and HUD roster ?

Try the HUD website

Homes and Communities - U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)

John Dirks Jr · #7 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 07:13 AM

Does HUD have a form or checklist that they want you to fill out? Can anyone post one?

I live near DC so traveling to training is not a hastle. Should I be looking into expanding into this area of business?

I've been reading the other threads on this subject and frankly I'm getting confused abour all the different things.

I would rather not do any phased type of jobs. I wouldn't mind doing work that basically takes one visit. Is there this kind out there regarding HUD? Do you fill out their forms? How do I get listed as being qualified for whatever?

Sorry about all the questions.

Scott Patterson · #8 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dirks Jr

Does HUD have a form or checklist that they want you to fill out? Can anyone post one?

Yes, but it depends on what type of inspection. What they have are on their site. Keep in mind that this type of inspection is primarly to insure that a new home is being built to HUD standards and that it will qualify for an FHA loan. HUD FHA Inspectors & 203(k) Consultants

With manufactured homes, they will need a HUD inspection. But this is not the same type of inspection and unless you meet specific requirements like being an engineer, you can not do this type of inspection and issue the required form. Most of us use Hayman Engineering http://www.hayman_res.com for this type of HUD inspection.

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I live near DC so traveling to training is not a hastle. Should I be looking into expanding into this area of business?

This training is for the REAC inspections. This is a completely different animal. Do a Google search on REAC inspections and you will find plenty of information on them.

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I've been reading the other threads on this subject and frankly I'm getting confused abour all the different things.

It's the federal government!

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I would rather not do any phased type of jobs. I wouldn't mind doing work that basically takes one visit. Is there this kind out there regarding HUD? Do you fill out their forms? How do I get listed as being qualified for whatever?

Sorry about all the questions.

Go to the HUD site and complete the Roster Inspector form, and if you meet their requirements you will be listed in 4-6 weeks on the HUD site. This has nothing to do with the REAC inspections.

I might do 2-3 HUD inspections a year, and that is during a good year!

Something else to look into are 203K inspections. This is another HUD program and depending on the area you are in, they are semi-popular. In my area they are not popular and folks don't get 203K loans.

Rick Bunzel · #9 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 05:03 PM

I am seeing an increase in requests for HUD Inspections. This is to be expected as lenders seek to minimize their exposure. The compliance inspections are easy and I generally take a few pictures to send to the lender.

//Rick

John Dirks Jr · #10 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Bunzel

I am seeing an increase in requests for HUD Inspections. This is to be expected as lenders seek to minimize their exposure. The compliance inspections are easy and I generally take a few pictures to send to the lender.

//Rick

Rick,

What is involved in the compliance inspections? How does it work?

I'm sure you can explain it to me better than the gummit.gov can......

Dana Bostick · #11 (**permalink**) 03-30-2009, 11:29 AM

I've been a "Listed Fee Inspector" for a few years now. Not much action until recently.
Now, I've hooked up with at least three builders that use me all the time for finals. the compliance and the 92051 form they need takes about 20 minutes to do and I get $75 each. Often get several at a time in the same project. It' s like stealing!

I have done over 25 Finals in the last three months. Easy work for the effort. Can't complain. Got the process pretty streamlined now. Pre-filled invoices for each builder, just plug in the FHA case number, name and date. the 92051 is a "fillable" PDF that I fill out and them open in PDF Annotator and sign on my TabletPC. The whole thing gets emailed out. Done.
Dana

JB Thompson · #12 (**permalink**) 03-30-2009, 07:45 PM

I've been on it since August. I've done about a half dozen or more. I charge substantially more than $75 and I know others in the Dallas area charge substantially more than I do. One other guy in my area charges $50 more than I.

I provide photos and the 92051. I do look at the blueprints to make sure the GC built what he agreed to build and I check the grading visually. If I happen to see a safety issue, I will call that out.

Sometimes, they just want to verify a single item, such as a fence. One time I had to verify 4 items.

It is another source of revenue; however, mortgage companies are an odd lot. I have had many more inspections that were canceled at the last minute or (never) rescheduled. Strange.

B

david presley · #13 (**permalink**) 04-12-2009, 10:36 PM

I have been on FHA Compliance and fee roster . I do a lot off mobile home inspection for retro fit foundation I have done over 300 of them . I have done about 150 FHA Final on new construction it is a simple process one page and what ever pictures they need . I have done more 203k inspections in the last 8 yrs. They have FHA reac inspections. I know on the new fha guidelines all new FHA Inspectors will have to pass a exam and prior FHA inspectors will have 6 months to pass test. this starts this year. What i got out of the e-mail they sent to me.

david presley · #14 (**permalink**) 04-12-2009, 10:43 PM

I have been on Fha Compliance and fee roster . I do a lot off mobile home inspection for retro fit foundation I have done over 300 of them . I have done about 150 FHA Final on new construction it is a simple process one page and what ever pictures they need . I have done more 203k inspections in the last 8 yrs. They have reac inspections. I know on the new FHA guidelines all new FHA Inspectors will have to pass a exam and prior FHA inspectors will have 6 months to pass test. this starts this year. What i got out of the e-mail they sent to me.

Nolan Kienitz · #15 (**permalink**) 04-15-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by david presley

... I know on the new FHA guidelines all new FHA Inspectors will have to pass a exam and prior FHA inspectors will have 6 months to pass test. this starts this year. What i got out of the e-mail they sent to me. ...

David,

Do you have an active link to the FHA/HUD website that clarifies your comment about current/prior FHA Fee Inspectors?

If you don't have a link can you post a portion of the e-mail you said you received from FHA concerning this?

Nolan Kienitz · #16 (**permalink**) 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM

I've sent several messages to David Presley and have asked for some additional update from him concerning his statement about the FHA Fee Inspector requirements.

So ... without having heard back from him, I've been tracking down some current information from FHA about the "current FHA Fee Inspectors".

Bottom line is that when FHA gets around to "announcing" they have a test for FHA Fee Inspectors then the clock will start ticking for the six-month window for existing FHA Fee Inspectors to take/pass the exam to be able to stay on the roster.

FHA advises that notification will be via a Mortgagee Letter. I've searched all the Mortgagee Letters and cannot find one that indicates any such announcement. My live conversations with FHA personnel today have also come up dry. That does not mean by end of day that such a letter mayhaps will materialize, but if you (as an FHA Fee Inspector) are on the Mortgagee Letter distribution list ... you will see it.

Here is a paste from the follow-up e-mail I got today following my calls to FHA. This is common language that has been in their information for some time.

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FAQ : How do I apply to be placed on the FHA Inspector Roster?

Solution Details : All inspectors seeking placement on the FHA Inspector Roster must meet the eligibility criteria listed below and apply for placement. To be eligible for placement on the FHA Inspector Roster an applicant must:
1. Have a minimum of three years experience in one or more construction related fields. The applicant must be equipped with familiarity, experience and understanding of all aspects of residential construction techniques and methods, particularly as related to new construction and/or repairs of a structural nature;

2. Possess an inspector's state or local license or certification, if licensing or certification is required by the State or local jurisdiction where the inspector will do business;

3. Read and fully understand FHA's inspection requirements, and any updates to those requirements, including:
a) HUD Handbook 4905.1 REV-1 (Requirements for Existing Housing, One to Four Family Units)
b) HUD Handbook 4910.1 (Minimum Property Standards for Housing
c) HUD Handbook 4145.1 REV-2 (Architectural Processing and Inspections for Home Mortgage Insurance)
d) HUD Handbooks 4150.1 REV-1 (Valuation Analysis for Home Mortgage Insurance)
e) HUD Handbook 4150.2 CHG-2 (Valuation Analysis for Home Mortgage Insurance for Single Family One- to Four- Unit Dwellings)
f) Permanent Foundations Guide for Manufactured Housing issued by Mortgagee Letter 97-36
g) Applicable local, state, or Council of American Building Officials (CABO) code(s)
h) HUD requirements at 24 CFR 200.926 4. Pass HUD's examination for inspectors (after such an examination becomes available).

FHA will announce the availability of the FHA Inspector exam by Mortgagee Letter. When the exam becomes available, inspectors already listed on the FHA Inspector Roster will have a six month grace period to pass the exam in order to remain on the Roster and will be reminded of such in the forthcoming Mortgagee Letter. To be placed on the FHA Inspector Roster the applicant must submit the following information:

1. An original completed form HUD-92563, ''Application for Fee or Roster Personnel Designation';
2. Proof of a valid State or local license or certification if licensing or certification is required by the State or local jurisdiction where the inspector will do business;
3. A certification from the entity providing the test to evidence successful passing of the comprehensive FHA Inspector examination (upon its availability).
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Unless FHA has issued the Mortgagee Letter about the exam in the time it took me to create this posting ... it has not yet been issued.

Dana Bostick · #17 (**permalink**) 04-20-2009, 04:57 PM

Considering that they are working on documentation issued in 1994 I'm not too worried about them issuing a new letter any time soon.

I saw some mention about this proposed test some time back. Nothing has materialized so far. This gig seems to come and go based on the market and interest rates. it's hot right now but will die off as soon as conventional gets back on its feet.
I'm certainly not basing my future on it.

Dana